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Things that do not happen when a gay person hits on straight ones

Posted on Jun 29th, 2008 by Alan :  Life to life. Alan
I read an article just now about a gay-rights parade in a foreign country... another situation where homosexuality in that nation is outlawed, meaning, gay sex carries a ten year sentence, and gigantic social stigmas.  It's like this so many places...

It's so sad to me that in so many of our nations, we judge based on this... to me, any homophobia is basically one group saying to another: 'look, you have to love exactly who we love and how we say you should love them.  Or else.'  It's ridiculous. 

Think of it: how silly that we hurt or stigmatize others for loving who they want to??????  How can love ever, ever be a bad thing?

It comes down to fear, I guess.  So I thought I'd share some stories.  I, shockingly, a straight fellow, have had gay friends!  I know, I know.  How did I manage? Well, it was easy... I just treated them like human beings, albeit human beings who, like many other people I've known, really liked things that I had no interest in.  With my particular friends, these things included: the movie "dreamgirls," Madonna albums, the search for the perfect, or 'face-giving,' pair of boots, use of the phrase "gives face" in general, and, OK, to be obvious about it, sex with other men.

But wait!  My story gets even more shocking.... see, I've gone all the way into the territory the homophobe fears.   Some of the gay people I knew-- prepared to be shocked, if you are afraid of such people-- developed crushes on me.

I couldn't tell you why.  I suppose, in their words, they found me 'hot.'  That was ok.  I did not mind them finding me hot.  They found me hot, I reiterated my preference for internal sexual organs, and that was that.  It was all good.  They appeared not to have any mind-control ability that would allow their finding me hot to make it impossible for me to avoid gay sex.

Now, however, I see some usefulness in this occurrence... for perhaps I can alert the world that indeed, some things do not happen (in my experience, at least) when a gay man hits on a straight one.

The gay person whips out his/her genitals and screams "halleluja!" (or something else)

Ok, now, I'm guessing on this as a fear of the homophobe...but I don't think it happens much, and it never did to me.  The larger point is: cultural rules of engagement do not vanish when gay meets straight.  One has no need to fear this happening.

The Straight person suddenly becomes gay against their will.
Science has noticed sexual preference is not contagious.  In fact, the very continued existence of homosexuality proves this, because frankly, considering how often it has been persecuted, I don't think it would have survived if preference could be passed on like a flu virus.  I think gay people in the countries where it's illegal, for example, would be busy catching 'straightness' in order to live their lives free of persecution.  Makes you think, doesn't it?

The Straight person becomes "gay by association"
Ok, yes, walking around new york with male friends wearing tight pants and fabulous boots did make people wonder about me occasionally.  Fortunately I was big enough not to give a damn.  And it's not like I had a scarlet 'G' branded into my forehead... and if anything it got me quite close to many women who were my friends' friends.  For the uber-straight male, in fact-- not that this was me-- having gay male friends can be quite a bonus. 

Aliens come down to earth to torture and kill the straight man and his friends and his family for breaking the intergalactic accords known as the Grhlfgbackat agreement.
Ok... seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?????  Why can't we allow people to love who they want to love, and be happy for them??????????????  What's wrong with it?    Variety is the spice of life, people.  My wish for the future is the day when we stop being scared of our differences. 


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Fedora : Coffee Shop Mystic
31 minutes later
Fedora said

Funny post. It seems I was always hit on more by gay men than I ever was women - something my wife teased me about over the years. Of course now with my 30-something paunch and baby spit on my shoulder it doesn't happen much anymore.

My favorite was when I was in Reno and a guy propositioned me in the bathroom and then quickly added, “I'm not gay or anything.”

Nicole : wakingdreamer
about 14 hours later
Nicole said

LOL! actually it's sad…

Alan, it is a huge problem. I hate to hear boys using the word gay as a derogatory random word too.

Girls have less problems with fearing to appear lesbian. I enjoy watching girls unselconsciously hug in public or walk around with their arms draped around each other just because they are friends.

Happily many societies aren't as uptight about gays in general or about physical closeness between men in specific.

Satya-Seer : My happy-gay frolicking shoes
5 days later
Satya-Seer said

Let me jump in here and give a litte GAY perspective.

First of all, Alan, thanks for writing this.  GOOD FOR YOU.  Yes, how can LOVE ever be bad?

I have more heterosexual friends than I do homosexual friends.  And who cares what their preference is, they are your friends.  My straight male friends absolutely adore me and I them.  I've even had a crush on one of my dearest friends and told him and we still sit on the couch together, hug heartily and sometimes give each other a peck on the lips.  But he has a great sense of self too, without fear of being “invaded,” violated or put out by who I AM.

It is a funny thing that I've been hit on by women over the years.  Why? I don't know because I'm, in my opinion, so obviously GAY - that is, if one can be so obviously GAY (remember, this is coming from the GAY perspective).  I'm honored when it happens.  It is the impetus to connect, even if just sexually, that interests me.  And like you, Alan, I simply tell them my preference and am not offended, have no fear that the lady might jump my “bone” or whatever.  But again, I am comfortable and know who I AM, my preferences.

I think what a lot of people associate with differences in others is when they are approached in inappropriate ways that pursue something within them.  For instance, when a gay man just won't take NO for an answer from a straight man.  But that is in all parts of our society, not just the realms of sexual preference.  In cases like this I'd say, “Walk away.”  You are in control of your feet.

Okay, I'm rambling here.

Nicole, boys hear this term and sometimes don't really know what it means.  They are just repeating something that they have heard and have no experience of.  See, I think the problem is people, as if they really know all about something, speaking from a place of knowing when indeed they have no experience of what they speak.

I make a habit of trying to meet people in their hearts.  I beam out my love to all people and they know me for that.  Anyone who sees me as “that gay guy” only or upon first meeting me, I walk away from.  After all, we are all divine embodiments of love.  I love people sometimes in spite of who they appear to be or who they say they are or who they identify with.

Again, thanks for this post.

Nicole : wakingdreamer
5 days later
Nicole said

thanks so much, John, I always learn important things from you. you're right. you are indeed a divine embodiment of love. the more i learn about you the more awed i am.

thanks alan for opening up this conversation. each blog discussion makes me feel richer, more open, more connected.

Samme : Prince of Rainbows<3
5 days later
Samme said

Yes thank you for this post Alan.  Just like Satya/John I have more straight male friends than gay males and boy they are adorable.  My straight male friends go out to the gay bars more than I do, I haven't gone out in years.  They tell me stuff like, “If I am gay I would definitely hit on you.”  LOL
You too Alan is adorable, keep the open mind and be a role model.  Thank you.
Samme

5 days later
cHAngeL said

Alan you rock…I miss you here in the states, man.

I love diversity and variety…friends are friends…I feel sorry for anyone who has not experienced friends who have different sexualities.

Discrimination in general in my opinion should be included in the DSM III, as insanity.

Honestly if there is one social issue that fires me up in this society…this is it.

I just do NOT “get it”…even the WORD homosexuality…is silly…or heterosexual.
How silly to put  WORDs on love. And if they HAD to add a word, couldn't they have made it better?…lol
Gay is cool I suppose…since it means happy…but I still think it is all silly to use words of separation. Now kids even use the term “gay” to mean “silly”…words can be misunderstood…and used in so many different ways.


Personally I prefer the word person….for all of us.


But then I never have gotten what it means to be separated from others too much. But I do know what it is like to have people separate from me, and it doesn't feel good.

Love and attraction should be cheered on the planet…they are basic needs, and should be honored with positive thoughts if the adult parties involved, are comfortable, and the approach is kind and repectful.

Some people have no clean WATER to drink…………………….are ya feelin' me here?

Love is life…sex is awesome…society needs to get a grip and figure out how to help get the core basics to our brothers and sisters who cry in the night.

It drives me absolutely crazy to watch the insanity on this planet.

Friends are great…does it really matter who they want to um…..?

Just so long as I get to hear about it, and we are all happy. :)

5 days later
Sherrilene said

I think about my male friends who co-incidentally are inclined to the same sex as I and I get a sensitivity that I've never received from a so-called straight male. I assure you, this particular element of diversity has definitely enriched my life and at times when I really needed such understanding, just when it counted. No complaints at this end!

I then observed my supposedly straight partner at the time, treat such a dear individual as I described above with disrespect and discrimination and it hurt me to the core. I subsequently dispatched with said partner and still have that wonderful friend in my close circle. He was evidence of God loving me at a time, like I said, I needed to have that. I wasn't going to bail on him when it was my time!

The human cause is bigger than the rudiments of love; it's much deeper. It's about loving ALL humanity…

I invite you to take a look at a beautiful story from my colleague Samwise which he posted in People Potential some time back. it might be interesting for all of you to see the extent of the 'problem' and how this manifests itself in real life. I'm always about how to overcome these things though, so please view it with some positivity, thank you.

Street Kids in Portland…http://pods.gaia.com/peoplepotential/discussions/view/261666

Love is enduring and forever; thank God for that.

Be blessed. I love you all. sherri

Spiritual Liberation : adventurer
7 days later
Spiritual Liberation said

I've also never understood why so many people perceive love as such a threat. Maybe, if they concede that love is bigger than their definition for it, their whole house of cards will fall, like dominoes. Change one little concept and everything has to shift. For example, if Jesus wasn't a homophobe, then the very foundations of what the Christian religion has been founded on must be called into question. If one biblical mandate is untrue, then all the rest are called into question as well. That is too big an idea for most people to be able to deal with.

People are scared stupid! And I mean that in the most politically incorrect way… ;)
Hate is way less scary than love because it creates space between 'us' and 'them'. Love closes the gap.

Great conversation! I have a recent blog post on a similar topic, called Does God Hate?

Nicole : wakingdreamer
7 days later
Nicole said

that street kids in Portland thread is awesome. i'm glad i found it…

Samme is amazing! Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow in SF!

Alan :  Life to life.
7 days later
Alan said

Hi everyone!  So glad to see such a nice discussion here.  I'm honored n' stuff. 

Love is awesome.

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